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Learning Communication from Children

Lots of strange things happen on the road. During the Summer, for example, we met a former Air Force sergeant who actually worked at Area 51, the desert location where secret military things happen according to the government, and salvaged alien spacecraft are hidden according to UFO researchers.

Perhaps the most unusual and most helpful experience during that season was presenting our vision for a university church in Berkeley to a group of elementary age students involved in the Sunday morning childrens ministry at Elevation Church in Layton, Utah. Jan and I shared with them for about 10 minutes before speaking to the adult service.

Before going to the childrens area, we cooked up a plan for our presentation. We would use a Cal teddy bear as a prop, then show one of our short Berkeley videos, and then talk a bit just before giving the kids a chance to ask questions. Brilliant.

Entering the room, we found Brianna and Clint, two of the adults working with the kids, and asked for some advice on how to communicate with today’s nine year-old. I questioned whether the children even knew what a “university” was, only to be assured that they understood the word “college” because there were some in the area, and they mostly intended to go there one day.

That helped. However, discovering the age of the children, we realized too late they were too old for our teddy bear trick. When the video failed to function (our bad), the second part of our plan collapsed. This left us only with a short talk and then going right to the favorite of every 5th grader: the Q & A.

The children entered as a group and all sat in the front row, separating themselves by several seats to stretch end to end. Brianna told us later that getting them all into the front row was a considerable moral victory. Her comment reminds me how much of the progress in ministry has to be measured in excruciatingly small steps.

Jan opened our presentation by talking about a college being a kind of school attended by thousands of people and that we were going to move near to one called Cal to start a new church. Then it was my turn to talk about how God wants to be everyone’s friend and that many of the people at Cal didn’t know about God’s friendship.

Then came the highlight of the talk (at least for us): teaching the kids to growl like Cal Bears (our mascot). A few brave students asked some questions during the Q & A time, and, with one final bear growl, we excused ourselves to speak in the adult service—where the video worked, the reception was warm, and everyone sat attentively through our 30-minute tandem presentation.

We both spoke in each venue, and we both totally enjoyed them.

But I gained a new conviction about training communicators: anyone preparing for a ministry role that involves public speaking should give presentations for children on a regular basis. Jan and I have done so many talks for adults that I cannot count them, but we have been in a children’s venue only twice in the last year.

This latest experience with kids reinforces some things for me:

1. Talks really need to be shorter: We were asked to do 10-15 minutes for the children’s ministry. But even this very reasonable request seemed like an eternity during the actual presentation. Some of that feeling doubtless reflected our inexperience, but I can only imagine how long it seemed to the kids! I have been an advocate of 25-minute sermons for a while now, but mine generally end up being something like 34 minutes, even using a timer. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. The children taught us that shorter (generally) is better. My case for short talks is not based on declining attention spans, but on two other ideas: (a) the time belongs to the audience not to me, so my task is to be a good steward; (b) cutting minutes from a talk forces me to use only my best stuff by condensing the content, hopefully getting rid of the Hamburger Helper and retaining the hamburger.

2. You are the ultimate weapon: On the road, technology such as videos will work about 70% of the time. This figure climbs to about 85% whenever you have home court advantage. We could not get our Berkeley video to function for the children (our bad for not showing up earlier with the disc), but they did not seem to care. Even the collapse of the teddy bear strategy left them unmoved. Their response seemed to depend more on who we were and why we were there. Are we going to be more impressive than their video games? I don’t think so. This experience made me wonder if we are over-developing our technology and under-developing ourselves as communicators. I’m not suggesting this is always a trade-off, but that with all our production meetings, creativity teams, and sermon branding, who is in charge of developing the communicator him/herself into a person worth listening to?

3. Feedback is my friend: Adult audiences are usually too nice. Even when I am doing a talk that is not moving people at all, many in the audience will solidify their facial expression into a frozen mask of feigned interest. Sure, some will play with their PDA’s, but lots of people will pretend to be engaged while secretly watching another movie in the multiplex theater of their minds. Children are not so. They are honest. Whenever Jan and I lost the attention of our elementary age students, their posture and expressions immediately made this painfully clear forcing us to try something else to regain their interest (the Cal Bear growl helped a lot). Similarly, watching yourself on video as soon after a talk as possible is a tremendous way to improve, as is soliciting input through surveys or focus groups. Why not invite a future-Christian to a service and ask him or her give you an evaluation of a sermon? I ask my students in preaching classes to do this sort of thing, and often see profound results.

Communicating across cultural lines is the single most effective way to grow as a speaker. The line between adults and children is one of those opportunities. Think you’re pretty good? Try speaking to kids.

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  1. 1Mel Davis 387 days ago

    I can completely understand what you are talking about. I am a leader for a specific age group in our children’s ministry. I am in a team that teaches (and I use this term carefully) to the ages of 3 1/2 to 5. This is the age you can be excited and easily project it and receive it back from quite easily. I feel for the teachers in the age group of say 2nd grade and up. They are a much tougher crowd. However one thing goes across all the boards… preparation. They know if you aren’t prepared to connect with them, they know when you are. I think of Mr. Rogers Neighborhood. The guy was a success because he wasn’t looking for the quick connection for a kid, no.. the kid found stability with him. They found him in control of the situation, he was the guide, the guy that controlled the show, made it simple and to the point. Communicators can learn alot from simple communicators like him. So I’m glad you wrote what you did. A kid doesn’t smile because you make them, they smile when they want to.
    Thank you for the observations.

  2. 2Bill Jakeway 320 days ago

    Wow! I worked with children for 30 years and recently made a move to be the media pastor (at the same church)! I have rarely encountered other adults that understand your concept of communication.

    Your statement about technology certainly hit me between the eyes! I do NOT doubt that my move was a God-thing, but it makes me much more aware that communication isn’t simply throwing graphics together, but that each video I create MUST be clear and concise in the message.

    Thanks!

    (and I am STOKED that you are coming to Lighthouse Church for Mother’s Day!)

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